Agenda and draft minutes

Healthier Communities Overview & Scrutiny Committee
Thursday, 5th March, 2020 1.30 pm

Venue: Council Chamber, Civic Centre, Hanbury Road, Pontypool, NP4 6YB

Contact: Geraint Thomas  Senior Business Support Officer - Democratic Services

No. Item


Welcome & apologies / Croeso ac y mddiheuriadau


1.1       Apologies were received from Councillors Mike Jeremiah, Fay Jones, Sue Malson and Rose Seabourne.


Declarations of interest / Datganiadau o fudd


2.1       Councillor Crick declared a personal interest in agenda item 5 as she was a County Borough Councillor for Croesyceiliog South, a member of Croesyceiliog & Llanyrafon Community Council and a Croesyceiliog resident.


2.2       Councillor Janet Jones declared a personal interest in agenda item 5 as she was a County Borough Councillor for Blaenavon, a former member of Blaenavon Town Council and a Blaenavon resident.


2.3       Councillor Rapier declared a personal interest in agenda item 5 as she was a student nurse with Aneurin Bevan University Health Board.


Minutes 30/1/20 / Cofnodion 30/1/20 pdf icon PDF 403 KB


3.1       Councillor Constance confirmed that he had given apologies for absence for the previous meeting; however they had not been forwarded on to the Chair or appropriate officers.


3.2       Regarding paragraph 5.4, the Chair sought an update regarding the funding of £616,000 required from Welsh Government (WG) in order to implement the new in-house model regarding domiciliary care.


3.3       Regarding paragraph 5.7, the Chair sought clarification as to whether the Local Authority (LA) intended to match the Welsh average for carers’ pay, as it had been stated during the previous meeting that the LA would be unable to match the UK average.


3.4       The minutes of the meeting held on 30th January 2020 were confirmed as an accurate record.


Action sheet / Taflen weithredu pdf icon PDF 103 KB


4.1       The Committee noted the action sheet.


Integrated Well-being Networks - Is Torfaen Well Placed to Support Community Well-being? / Rhwydweithiau Lles Integredig - A yw Torfaen Mewn Sefyllfa Dda i Gefnogi Lles Cymunedol? pdf icon PDF 401 KB

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5.1       The Chair welcomed the TSDL and the three invitees to the meeting.


5.2       Following Members’ questions and comments, the TSDL made the following main points:

  • It was hoped that the programme would be rolled out across the whole of Gwent; however the emphasis was currently on getting the model right and learning along the way. She hoped to expand the programme into Abersychan, Thornhill and Fairwater next; however this was dependent upon capacity.
  • Croesyceiliog and Llanyrafon had been chosen as one of the two initial areas for the programme due to age factors, which were highlighted by the Torfaen Integration Plan.
  • The lack of longer term stability around funding was frustrating; however the intention was to imbed foundations that could be built upon should funding cease to exist in the future. She added that her role should not be required in the very long term.
  • The lack of longer term stability around funding was one of the reasons why the programme had not been expanded into other areas yet, as she did not want to spread the funding too thinly.
  • The programme was funded exclusively by WG; however the Healthier Blaenavon role was being led by the Public Services Board (PSB), with £20,000 being funded by Torfaen County Borough Council and £10,000 being funded by Blaenavon Town Council.
  • Monmouthshire’s approach was different to the rest of Gwent as their model of integration was based on community hubs that were led by Social Care. She added that Monmouthshire County Council had led the way in this area and that funding had enhanced what they were already doing.
  • It was planned that the Compassionate Communities programme would come to Torfaen; however no timeframe had been set. She was concerned that Blaenau Gwent and Caerphilly would be at least a year ahead of Torfaen in respect of this, once it came to Torfaen.
  • Partners were encouraged to work together as and when the potential for duplication arose.
  • Discussions were taking place around the potential need for a Hub Manager; however no formal proposals or funding were in place. She added that MP looked after the premises in Blaenavon and Torfaen Customer Care were picking up the co-ordination of outreach services; however this needed further exploration.
  • Torfaen Customer Care had been critical to the programme, they had capacity to co-ordinate outreach services and had been proactive at looking holistically at the programme. Senior managers within Torfaen Customer Care were currently working on the structure of the team in order to pick up some of the work being done by the TSDL.
  • The previous model for the Social Prescriber role had not been appropriate; however the role was required and in the future it would be exclusively funded by the Neighbourhood Care Networks. One of the main lessons that had been learnt regarding the previous model was that the officer never got to witness the positive outcomes and this had the potential to impact upon staff wellbeing.
  • Hubs included any building within the community  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.


Item for next meeting / Eitem ar gyfer y cyfarfod nesaf


6.1       The CSO informed the Committee that they would be considering the Implementation of the Local Housing Strategy – 2019/20 Operational Plan.


Date of next meeting 30/4/20 / Dyddiad y cyfarfod nesaf 30/4/20


7.1       The date of the next meeting was noted.


7.2       The meeting ended at 3.20pm.