Agenda and minutes

Children and Young People Overview & Scrutiny Committee
Thursday, 13th February, 2020 1.30 pm

Venue: Council Chamber, Civic Centre, Pontypool NP4 6YB

Contact: Geraint Thomas  Senior Business Support Officer (Democratic Services)

No. Item


Welcome & apologies / Croeso ac ymddiheuriadau


1.1       Apologies were received from Councillors Kathy Evans, Alan Jones and Raymond Williams.


Declarations of interest / Datganiadau o fudd


2.1       No interests were declared.


2.2       The CLO left the meeting.


Minutes 15/1/2020 / Cofnodion 15/1/2020 pdf icon PDF 414 KB


3.1       The minutes of the meeting held on 15th January 2020 were confirmed as an accurate record.


Action sheet / Taflen Gweithredu pdf icon PDF 99 KB


4.1       The Committee noted the action sheet.


EAS Business Plan 2020-2021 and Local Authority Annex 2020-2021 (Draft for consultation) / Cynllun Busnes GCA 2020-2021 ac Atodiad Awdurdod Lleol 2020-2021 (drafft ar gyfer ymgynghoriad) pdf icon PDF 431 KB

Additional documents:


5.1       EP introduced the report and reminded the Committee that the Business Plan was still in the consultation phase, where overview and scrutiny committees were able to feed into the process. He added that the Business Plan was a requirement from Welsh Government and that more detailed plans lay underneath it.


5.2       Following Members’ questions and comments, the COE, EP and KB made the following main points:

  • KB confirmed that targets had been set in previous versions of the Business Plan; however this year’s version was designed in order to be easier to read, not just for members and professionals, but for the whole community. She added that success criteria could be found on page 37 of the agenda.
  • The COE confirmed that the Local Authority (LA) Strategic Plan formed part of the Service Plan and that priorities had been formed with the Education Achievement Service (EAS). He added that all service plans were reported to Council.
  • EP suggested that a more coherent programme was required around governor training and he agreed to explore the possibility of introducing professional qualifications. He added that it was important to balance the needs of enthusiastic governors, without deterring other people from performing the role.
  • In terms of expected LA engagement being mentioned more throughout other regional consortium business plans, KB explained that this could be down to the different models used. For example, Education through Regional Working (ERW) used a very different model where challenge advisors were based within the LA, rather than the regional consortium.
  • Following the Committee’s suggestion that the document looked like a service agreement, rather than a partnership document, KB agreed that it was possible that the long and clear discussions with the five directors may not be reflected; however school improvement could not happen with the EAS working in isolation. The COE added that a much richer picture existed outside of the document and it would be beneficial to publish this on the partners’ websites.
  • The COE explained that he had confidence in the systems to monitor targets, which had improved over time, and that engagement with school leadership teams and governing bodies was vital. He added that the systems were working very well in terms of primary schools and that the three secondary schools categorised as red were receiving the support that they required.
  • The COE confirmed that legacy issues existed around leadership and quality of teaching in some schools and KB added that change takes time; however she reassured the committee by confirming that the LA and EAS met quarterly regarding quality assurance issues.
  • The COE confirmed that the mid-year evaluation of the current business plan was reported to directors of education and the Regional Joint Executive Group (JEG) at the end of November 2019; and at that point they became public documents. He suggested that a mechanism could be put in place to make sure that key documents were shared with the Committee in future.
  • The COE explained that Estyn had raised concerns regarding the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.


Date of next meeting 11/3/2020 / Dyddiad y cyfarfod nesaf 11/3/2020


6.1       The date of the next meeting was noted.


6.2       The meeting ended at 4.00pm.